According to an interview conducted by pro-Kremlin political technologist Konstantin Dolgov, Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner PMC, acknowledged that following the outbreak of war in Ukraine and the tasks set by Vladimir Putin regarding “demilitarization” and “denazification,” the Ukrainian Armed Forces have transformed into one of the world's most powerful militaries. Prigozhin also discussed the casualties suffered by the PMC in Bakhmut, comparing them to the “significantly lower number of casualties in Afghanistan”. He made a questionable compliment about Dmitry Peskov's son: “He is a nutjob, so he was doing quite well in the PMC”. Additionally, Prigozhin followed his usual pattern of criticizing the Russian defense minister and his family, including his son-in-law, whom he referred to as a “dickwad.” The Insider has highlighted the most noteworthy quotes from this interview.
The AFU is one of the world's strongest armies
Throughout our extensive engagements with various groups and nations, such as the Americans, the French, the UN forces, and African tribes, we have gained profound knowledge of their fighting capabilities. Presently, the Wagner PMC stands as the preeminent military force worldwide. It is essential to acknowledge, in the interest of accuracy, that the Russian army supports and reinforces this position. However, I must also recognize that the Ukrainian armed forces have emerged as one of the most formidable armies, possessing exceptional organizational skills, training regimens, intelligence capabilities, and a diverse arsenal. Notably, they demonstrate a philosophical approach to accepting casualties, displaying unwavering dedication towards a greater objective, reminiscent of the collective resolve seen during the Great Patriotic War.
We have fought in many places and with a lot of enemies. We know how the Americans, the French, the useless UN troops, and the African tribes fight. Today the Wagner PMC is the best army in the world. Next to it, I should say, out of correctness, is the Russian army, but I think the Ukrainians are one of the strongest armies. They have exceptional organizational skills, training regimens, intelligence capabilities, and a diverse arsenal. And they demonstrate a philosophical approach to accepting casualties. They display unwavering dedication towards a greater objective, like we had in the Great Patriotic War.
Denazification and Demilitarization
We have succeeded in establishing Ukraine as a globally recognized nation, comparable to the renowned prosperity of ancient Greece. Regarding the notion of demilitarization, it is worth noting a significant transformation. Initially, if we assume that they possessed 500 tanks during the onset of the special operation, now that number has multiplied to 5,000 tanks. Furthermore, while they were capable of mobilizing 20,000 individuals for combat previously, their current manpower stands at a formidable 400,000. These developments indicate a contrary trend to the concept of demilitarization.
The denazification of Ukraine that we've been talking about… We have established Ukraine as a globally recognized nation, comparable to the Greeks during the prosperity of Greece. As for demilitarization: if we assume that they possessed 500 tanks at the beginning of the special operation, now that number has multiplied to 5,000 tanks. Furthermore, while they were capable of mobilizing 20,000 people for combat previously, their current manpower stands at 400,000. Can we say we've demilitarized it? It's quite the other way around.
Peskov's son, a “nutjob”
Peskov <the press secretary for Russian president> told me that his son had this idea of joining the Wagner PMC. He wanted to be a part of it because he thought he could make a real difference there. He would have been sitting around doing nothing in the regular army, but with the PMC, he'd be out there fighting. He wanted to be a navigator, and I applied my administrative resources to prevent his going as a navigator, because Peskov wouldn't have been happy if he had died, because the risks were serious. And it was also unclear how well he was prepared morally. He served six months on the Uragan, worked well, performed various combat missions. It is clear that Dmitry Sergeevich [Peskov] was nervous, worried, but his son is known among the elite, in social circles, as a nutjob, so he was doing well there [in the PMC]. And the guys were not much interested in his background, no one knew that he was Peskov's son.
Shoigu's son-in-law, a “d*ckwad”
When I visit some of my acquaintances, they are horrified, they say, “Why are you saying this? Why are you saying all these things about the kids? Don't touch the kids!” They're all psychotic, you can't touch children: “They are just kids!” Lavrov's daughter lives in America, someone else's daughter lives somewhere else. F*ck, aren't you ashamed of yourselves? Why don't you grab your teenagers by the balls, or, I don't know, by the pigtails, and put them in their place so they can calm down? Look what's going on. What's going on with Shoigu <Russian defense minister>? Shoigu's son-in-law is shaking his buttocks on camera, and his daughter is opening Kronstadt forts. Did you earn money for these forts?! Is it your money you spend on these forts? Spend it on f*cking ammunition. And when the Defense Minister flaunts his daughter and flaunts some d*ckwad who's also a blogger and who says he doesn't even like the special operation... It was not us who came up with this special operation, but we followed orders and said, “If we're going to fight our neighbors, we should go all the way.”
Wagner PMC's losses in Ukraine
There were far fewer people killed in Afghanistan than in Artemivsk [Bakhmut]. At one time I had 30,000-35,000 at the front. During the operation I recruited 50,000 prisoners, of whom about 20 percent were killed. The count of convicts lost in combat exactly matches with the number of contract soldiers killed in action. Those wounded in action account for approximately another 20 percent.
Extreme patriotism often leads people to act foolishly because they become caught up in the fervor. Navalny, despite being a complete jerk, actually served a purpose. When he would start yelling about corporate leaders embezzling money, it posed a real threat to them. But now that Navalny is out of the picture, everyone is free to steal money and disappear. There needs to be some sort of deterrent in place.
As a Russian citizen, I have been closely following the situation in Crimea. Who liberated Crimea? Crimea was liberated by Aksenov, the self-defense militia, the FSB, and the special operations forces, the little green men. But the main work was done by the self-defense militia, Aksenov, and the FSB. The special operations forces [SSO] were commanded by Aleksei Gennadyevich Dyumin. What Sergei Kuzhugetovich [Shoigu] was doing at the time, only he knows. I was in contact with those who worked in Crimea, people came to me for money, I wasn't engaged in any combat tasks at the time, people came to me for media support, I had political scientists hired and so on. <...> I can tell you with absolute certainty: the self-defense militia, Aksenov, the FSB, the SSO, Dyumin. Well, and, of course, the decision that President Putin made. Was Sergei Kujugetovich [Shoigu] around...? I know he was around for his decoration with the Order of St. Andrew, the country's one and only. But now, when there's a defeat, there's no one around.